This is going to be kind of weird to explain, and I don’t know if this is a glitch that everyone on this website knows about (I’ve only been using HookTheory for a little under a year) but I’ve experienced this glitch multiple times where the playhead for the chord and melody builder will move slower when playing the youtube video with the “test with sync” button on, but when you play the chords and melody without the youtube video, it moves at the intended speed. I don’t know if I’ve explained this very well (I probably didn’t) but if anybody knows whats going on; heck, if anyone has experienced something similar, please let me know because I, at the very least, need to know that i’m not alone.
2 Likes
If the playhead is not moving at the correct speed during youtube playback, there’s either a discrepancy between the number of measures in your Hookpad project and the number of measures in the selected section of music, or the sync points aren’t placed correctly.
The pace of the playhead during youtube playback is not affected by the BPM you set your Hookpad project to, so you need to make sure to sync correctly.
This is assuming that the piece of music you’re transcribing is at a somewhat even tempo (no rubato) and doesn’t contain any tempo changes.
Tempo changes currently aren’t supported for youtube playback as there are only two sync points available. So in that case you’ll just have to live with it being out of sync.
1 Like
I’ve been tweaking the bpm of the song and a tempo increase for the past hour trying to figure out what was going on. I knew it doesn’t make sense to define the amount of measures, and tempo, and start and end time - that’s too many knobs that at least one of which should be calculated from the others.
Still I tried. In vein. I guess I’ll have to split this wicked song into a verse and a pre-chorus. So frustrating. I was really just trying to make my scrubber go along at the same pace as the youtube video over the chords.
Tempo changes are now supported as of 2.32.9 (September 2024). If you submit your transcription to the database and post the link here, I can have a look at it and tell you what’s wrong.
I posted about the same exact problem too. I hope that we can get a solution or fix for this issue. Good luck.
Defying Gravity by Kristin Chenoweth and Idina Menzel Chords, Melody, and Music Theory Analysis - Hooktheory is what I worked on. I was initially authoring the verse and the pre-chorus as just a “verse” when I gave up. I think the BPM is either all over the place in that song, or there are measures that I’m misunderstanding.
Wow, that’s some wonky timing, man. At first I thought there might be some meter changes in there, but it’s likely just a mix of rubato and syncopation, which makes it really difficult to figure out.
I went ahead and added some tempo changes to the verse section, so the chords are roughly in sync now. I can’t be bothered to fix the melody, but that shouldn’t be too difficult now that the Tab is in sync with the music.
I will probably take a look at the pre-chorus later as well.
1 Like
Haha, what a monster edit. Thanks for taking a look.
I kind of assumed chord changes go on the measure. I guess I have more to learn.
This one’s harmless. I’ve sometimes spent hours editing a single TheoryTab. Some transcriptions are so bad that it’s actually less work to transcribe the whole thing from scratch than individually correcting every mistake.
That’s the obvious assumption here as there are no other elements to indicate where the barline is. If you pay attention to the duration of each chord though, you will notice a pattern where the Gbsus2 is always a bit longer than the Db.
Accounting for that with tempo changes would result in very drastic tempo changes in every single measure, whereas syncopating the onset of the Gbsus2 by an eighth note results in a reasonably smooth tempo envelope.
I obviously have no proof that this is how the song was actually written and performed, but I think it makes the most sense to analyze it that way.
Please make sure to fix the timing of the melody when you find the time, as it’s much too inaccurate right now. As I said that shouldn’t be too difficult now that the chords are synced.
I will let you know when I synced the pre-chorus so you can take care of the melody there too.
1 Like
I fixed the melody (as best as I could figure out I guess). Thank you for your help @SilentPaaw!
1 Like